Comments on Mormon Blogs on Science and Technology Read comments in response to Mormon perspectives on science and technology. http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=b8fee5071dd3f19f46e556138f7a3e4c Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:58:38 -0700 http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ http://transfigurism.orghttp://transfigurism.org/images/mta-thumb.pngMormon Transhumanist AssociationMormonismBlogsCommentshttp://feedburner.google.comSubscribe with My Yahoo!Subscribe with NewsGatorSubscribe with My AOLSubscribe with BloglinesSubscribe with NetvibesSubscribe with GoogleSubscribe with PageflakesThe Mormon Transhumanist Association promotes practical faith in human exaltation through charitable use of science and technology. To invoke God without constraining it by some defi... http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/QEJvkUP8j10/despite-hawking-universe.html To invoke God without constraining it by some definition is not SCIENTIFIC. So, define the creator god crap first before going on criticizing those who say we do not need god to explain what we observe. I really don't know who gave you a PhD! May be University of Phoenix?<br /><br />All your questions address "primal cause" without ever defining the context. Here is better way<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~4/QEJvkUP8j10" height="1" width="1"/> Anonymous at theeternaluniverse.blogspot.com tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4212234230338648875.post-165575876330416567 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:12:28 -0700 http://theeternaluniverse.blogspot.com/2010/09/despite-hawking-universe.html?showComment=1283454748712#c165575876330416567 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Chad http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/PDnNIpcuz6s/ to timheuer: The old ward directory isn't integrated with MLS, so callings in the leadership area are only as current as your ward website admin keeps them. In the new.lds.org/directory, callings are pulled from your MLS system. Chad at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2576 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:00:58 -0700 to timheuer:

The old ward directory isn’t integrated with MLS, so callings in the leadership area are only as current as your ward website admin keeps them. In the new.lds.org/directory, callings are pulled from your MLS system.

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2576 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Ty http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/YNLO08ZxVdc/ @PDG Let me just say -- I have NOTHING to do with the development group that put this together. I'm a merely a member of the Church that saw your post. Can I respectfully ask that you use discretion and look into things before jumping to conclusions and threatening legal action. Have you read the following: https://tech.lds.org/wiki/index.php/LDS_Maps_English_Help#Download_or_print_confidential_household_data I'm in the bishopric, so I can see confidential information. When logged in with my wife's account, I can only see the same information that I could see in the existing directory. Household names, Phone, addresses and children names. The Church is charged with perfecting the saints. Do we not want to enable church members to know one another and call on one another to accomplish that? These technological improvements are the BEST THING imaginable to help members have access to current contact information and current ward member info. It's a wonderful thing! I wish I understood the paranoia that you seem to have over this. It's a church roster. Ages aren't even listed! Ty at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2575 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:08:11 -0700 @PDG

Let me just say — I have NOTHING to do with the development group that put this together. I’m a merely a member of the Church that saw your post. Can I respectfully ask that you use discretion and look into things before jumping to conclusions and threatening legal action. Have you read the following: https://tech.lds.org/wiki/index.php/LDS_Maps_English_Help#Download_or_print_confidential_household_data

I’m in the bishopric, so I can see confidential information. When logged in with my wife’s account, I can only see the same information that I could see in the existing directory. Household names, Phone, addresses and children names.

The Church is charged with perfecting the saints. Do we not want to enable church members to know one another and call on one another to accomplish that?

These technological improvements are the BEST THING imaginable to help members have access to current contact information and current ward member info. It’s a wonderful thing! I wish I understood the paranoia that you seem to have over this. It’s a church roster. Ages aren’t even listed!

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2575 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by timheuer http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/h5lwJyxnUzw/ Great work Joel. I love the new design and ward directory info. Why is the directory information different on the current site though? My current online directory shows incomplete data for YM/YW leaders, but is valid in the new one, so MLS must be right somewhere but the current stake/ward directory isn't getting updated online correctly? timheuer at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2574 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:15:25 -0700 Great work Joel. I love the new design and ward directory info. Why is the directory information different on the current site though? My current online directory shows incomplete data for YM/YW leaders, but is valid in the new one, so MLS must be right somewhere but the current stake/ward directory isn’t getting updated online correctly?

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2574 Comment on LDS Apostle Blogs by Silvia Diaz http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/H77ao_7LP4g/ Yes I am a Mormon and very proud of it!!!! Silvia Diaz at ldsmediatalk.com http://ldsmediatalk.com/?p=5749#comment-75540 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:51:37 -0700 Yes I am a Mormon and very proud of it!!!!

]]> http://ldsmediatalk.com/2010/08/19/lds-apostle-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-75540 Comment on Members Sharing the Gospel Online by ldsWebguy http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/l34Dd8lzy20/ Shawnie, The article in the September Ensign is in the "News of the Church" section on pages 74-76. It's also online at http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=0bc0321a03faa210VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD ldsWebguy at ldsmediatalk.com http://ldsmediatalk.com/?p=5765#comment-75534 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:32:39 -0700 Shawnie,
The article in the September Ensign is in the “News of the Church” section on pages 74-76. It’s also online at http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=0bc0321a03faa210VgnVCM100000176f620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

]]> http://ldsmediatalk.com/2010/08/25/members-sharing-the-gospel-online/comment-page-1/#comment-75534 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by PDG http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/EHoJ16T4VjQ/ I can see there is no concern about privacy whatsoever. I just logged in and I saw, and even exported all the member information from my own ward, with all the data of my family showing by default. During the beta I warned through the feedback that this was not only dangerous but illegal (nobody asked my concent to publish information of my family, nor to allow somebody to download it from the Church). I already "updated my profile", but still I have to warn all the members about it... I'm so angry that I'm really considering starting legal actions. PDG at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2573 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:46:23 -0700 I can see there is no concern about privacy whatsoever. I just logged in and I saw, and even exported all the member information from my own ward, with all the data of my family showing by default. During the beta I warned through the feedback that this was not only dangerous but illegal (nobody asked my concent to publish information of my family, nor to allow somebody to download it from the Church). I already “updated my profile”, but still I have to warn all the members about it… I’m so angry that I’m really considering starting legal actions.

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2573 Comment on Official LDS Church Pages on Facebook by Joe http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/7bZCAYBUEDg/ Also visit http://www.facebook.com/byutv Joe at ldsmediatalk.com http://ldsmediatalk.com/?p=5834#comment-75529 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:50:12 -0700 Also visit http://www.facebook.com/byutv

]]> http://ldsmediatalk.com/2010/09/01/official-lds-church-pages-on-facebook/comment-page-1/#comment-75529 Comment on Official Church Web Sites by Official LDS Church Pages on Facebook | LDS Media Talk http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/3Mf7Y3jpggM/ [...] is an updated list of all the official Facebook pages for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We invite you to click through [...] Official LDS Church Pages on Facebook | LDS Media Talk at ldsmediatalk.com http://ldsmediatalk.com/?page_id=2892#comment-75526 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:24:53 -0700 [...] is an updated list of all the official Facebook pages for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We invite you to click through [...]

]]> http://ldsmediatalk.com/official-church-web-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-75526 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Jim Lewis http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/6EiK7LHBVpY/ Having launched numerous web sites myself, I know how harried things can get... and then the day of going live, users get a message like this when they type in http://new.lds.org: Page Not Found But it has a nice search box, and a link for leaving feedback. Jim Lewis at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2572 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:43:32 -0700 Having launched numerous web sites myself, I know how harried things can get… and then the day of going live, users get a message like this when they type in http://new.lds.org:

Page Not Found

But it has a nice search box, and a link for leaving feedback.

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2572 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Jeremy http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/EIoBE7ysgvA/ The new calendar app doesn't appear to be populated with the current calendar data for my ward and stake. Will that data be migrated to the new calendar app in the future? Jeremy at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2571 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:28:49 -0700 The new calendar app doesn’t appear to be populated with the current calendar data for my ward and stake. Will that data be migrated to the new calendar app in the future?

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2571 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Alex http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/L0-exTTWVYI/ Has anything been added since beta.lds.org? It looks like beta.lds.org is redirecting here now, but I don't see many changes at first glance. The things from your list all seem like they've been on the beta site. <em>[jpd: much of the stuff on new was on beta. We change beta every month. This is going "live" with the official version. There are new things this month, though.]</em> Alex at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2569 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:41:14 -0700 Has anything been added since beta.lds.org? It looks like beta.lds.org is redirecting here now, but I don’t see many changes at first glance. The things from your list all seem like they’ve been on the beta site.

[jpd: much of the stuff on new was on beta. We change beta every month. This is going "live" with the official version. There are new things this month, though.]

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2569 Comment on new.lds.org Now Available! by Richard Thiot http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/LxwHMi4iLAo/ It looks like the old site to me and beta.lds.org is not currently available. I thought the new site would look like the beta site. <em>[jpd: The new site is <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://new.lds.org">new.lds.org</a>.]</em> Richard Thiot at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/?p=326#comment-2568 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 10:14:23 -0700 It looks like the old site to me and beta.lds.org is not currently available. I thought the new site would look like the beta site.

[jpd: The new site is new.lds.org.]

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2010/09/01/new-lds-org-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-2568 Comment on LDS.ORG by Martin Howell http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/C7f4GQn3ytk/ I'd love to see a template that shows a reading schedule that guides me to completing the four standard works in a designated period of time, a year or two years. It could follow the SS Lesson schedule (but without skipping any chapters or books) or the seminary reading schedule. It could have options for multiple readings of the Book of Mormon. It would allow me to customize according to my own chosen reading patterns. Martin Howell at www.ldscio.org http://www.ldscio.org/2007/06/03/ldsorg-2/#comment-2567 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:30:54 -0700 I’d love to see a template that shows a reading schedule that guides me to completing the four standard works in a designated period of time, a year or two years. It could follow the SS Lesson schedule (but without skipping any chapters or books) or the seminary reading schedule. It could have options for multiple readings of the Book of Mormon. It would allow me to customize according to my own chosen reading patterns.

]]> http://www.ldscio.org/2007/06/03/ldsorg-2/comment-page-3/#comment-2567 Comment on Members Sharing the Gospel Online by Shawnie Cannon http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/i8xZLw2i65M/ I recently started a blog and am shocked by how many visitors I get. It's all about LDS quotes and inspirations and ideas. I'm doing a piece on anti-Mormonism and would love to reference this Ensign article, but do not find it. What page? Did you author the article, can I cite you as the author from this blog post? Shawnie Cannon at ldsmediatalk.com http://ldsmediatalk.com/?p=5765#comment-75482 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:45:47 -0700 I recently started a blog and am shocked by how many visitors I get. It’s all about LDS quotes and inspirations and ideas. I’m doing a piece on anti-Mormonism and would love to reference this Ensign article, but do not find it. What page? Did you author the article, can I cite you as the author from this blog post?

]]> http://ldsmediatalk.com/2010/08/25/members-sharing-the-gospel-online/comment-page-1/#comment-75482 SteveP, That Comparative Chart post is cool. Than... http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/zpj_QwCbEfw/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html <b>SteveP</b>,<br /><br />That <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/12/30/comparative-charts/">Comparative Chart</a> post is cool. Thanks for the link.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~4/zpj_QwCbEfw" height="1" width="1"/> R. Gary at ldsscience.blogspot.com tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10096208.post-3231482782805877379 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:18:59 -0700 http://ldsscience.blogspot.com/2010/08/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html?showComment=1283311139464#c3231482782805877379 Oh, thanks for reminding me of that, Steve! http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/hERyEFIJs-A/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html Oh, thanks for reminding me of that, Steve!<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~4/hERyEFIJs-A" height="1" width="1"/> Jared* at ldsscience.blogspot.com tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10096208.post-2210285766320117552 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:16:04 -0700 http://ldsscience.blogspot.com/2010/08/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html?showComment=1283310964121#c2210285766320117552 Thanks Jared this is very useful. Don't forget Joh... http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/adZgn_K2MOQ/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html Thanks Jared this is very useful. Don't forget John Hamer's important updating of the manuals: http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/12/30/comparative-charts/<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~4/adZgn_K2MOQ" height="1" width="1"/> SteveP at ldsscience.blogspot.com tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10096208.post-8955368552770267697 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:27:16 -0700 http://ldsscience.blogspot.com/2010/08/hezekiahs-tunnel-refutes-flood-geology.html?showComment=1283308036194#c8955368552770267697 Comment on Time and Harman by Clark http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/ZydH7o3fkas/ Levi, I suspect where I got confused was the examples and then the statement it wasn't Leibniz or relations. So I probably was taking it as an emergent "something" out of that tension between objects and relations. Clearly wrong I guess, although I still don't understand. It's not enough to say objects precede space or time, in my opinion. But perhaps that's where I was confusing you and Graham. Once again though I wasn't saying there was a contradiction between SR or GR and OOO but rather Einstein's Leibnizean quest. But clearly I wasn't clear enough in how I presented it. (Mea culpa) But I really don't mind being completely wrong in all this. I'm still confused as I said as I can completely understand space and time as relations. I can't wrap my head around what OOO is arguing. Undoubtedly a cognitive limit of my own making. Clark at www.libertypages.com http://www.libertypages.com/cgw/?p=3239#comment-4079 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:47:12 -0700 Levi, I suspect where I got confused was the examples and then the statement it wasn’t Leibniz or relations. So I probably was taking it as an emergent “something” out of that tension between objects and relations. Clearly wrong I guess, although I still don’t understand. It’s not enough to say objects precede space or time, in my opinion. But perhaps that’s where I was confusing you and Graham.

Once again though I wasn’t saying there was a contradiction between SR or GR and OOO but rather Einstein’s Leibnizean quest. But clearly I wasn’t clear enough in how I presented it. (Mea culpa)

But I really don’t mind being completely wrong in all this. I’m still confused as I said as I can completely understand space and time as relations. I can’t wrap my head around what OOO is arguing. Undoubtedly a cognitive limit of my own making.

]]> http://www.libertypages.com/cgw/2010/08/31/time-and-harman/comment-page-1/#comment-4079 Comment on Time and Harman by Levi http://feeds.transfigurism.org/~r/MormonismBlogsComments/~3/FneuZFXQ9c0/ Clark, Borth Graham's point and my own is precisely that space and time are not mediums or containers. Objects <em>precede</em> space and time such that space and time <em>arise from</em> objects, space and time are not backgrounds in which events take place. To attribute the claim that space and time are backgrounds of objects in OOO is to claim the exact opposite of what OOO argues. Graham outlines this early in <em>Prince of Networks</em> when discussing Latour's thesis about space and time. It's for this reason that I'm perplexed by your suggestion that there's some sort of contradiction between Einsteinian relativity and OOO. OOO is very much Einsteinian in spirit. Levi at www.libertypages.com http://www.libertypages.com/cgw/?p=3239#comment-4078 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:49:42 -0700 Clark,

Borth Graham’s point and my own is precisely that space and time are not mediums or containers. Objects precede space and time such that space and time arise from objects, space and time are not backgrounds in which events take place. To attribute the claim that space and time are backgrounds of objects in OOO is to claim the exact opposite of what OOO argues. Graham outlines this early in Prince of Networks when discussing Latour’s thesis about space and time. It’s for this reason that I’m perplexed by your suggestion that there’s some sort of contradiction between Einsteinian relativity and OOO. OOO is very much Einsteinian in spirit.

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